________________________________________________________________________________ >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:06:31 -0800 (PST) >From: Declan McCullagh >To: politech@vorlon.mit.edu >Subject: FC: AOL bars delivery of news article about FBI and "porn" >Reply-To: declan@well.com > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:08:52 -0500 (EST) >From: Ray Everett-Church >To: declan@well.com, freematt@COIL.COM >Subject: irony > > >Declan & Matt: Found the following bounced email in the admin mailbox for >the Cyberia list. Headers deleted to protect the silly. > >Regards, >-Ray >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ray Everett-Church, Esq. - Chief Privacy Officer & VP, Public Policy > AllAdvantage.com - It's time to take Advantage of the Internet. > Join AllAdvantage! >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 05:46:18 -0500 >From: "L-Soft list server at America Online (1.8d)" > > >The enclosed message, found in the CYBERIA-L mailbox and shown >under the spool >ID 10705042 in the system log, has been identified as a possible >delivery error >notice for the following reason: "Sender:", "From:" or >"Reply-To:" field >pointing to the list has been found in mail body. > >------------------------ Message in error (168 lines) >------------------------- >Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 05:45:48 -0500 (EST) >From: >Message-Id: <200002171045.FAA01297@listserv.aol.com> >Received: from for >To: CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Rejected Message > > >The attached mail message has been rejected for the following reason: > >Body contained word(s)/phrase(s): porn, porno > >Additional Information: > > >errorlevel: >0 > >Please correct the problem before re-sending the mail.: > > > >Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:06:42 -0500 >From: Matthew Gaylor >Subject: Clinton & Gore Vow To Fight The Establishment On Crypto (Yeah > Right) >To: CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > >[Note from Matthew Gaylor: Professor Dave Farber is the new chief >technologist at the FCC and was present for Clinton's recent Internet >security meeting. Read point number 4 and then read Declan >McCullagh's article on Louie Freeh's request for more tax dollars to >fight online drug smugglers, child pornographers, spies, and >terrorists. Am I the only one to think Clinton speaks out of both >sides of his mouth?] > >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 05:27:25 -0500 >From: Dave Farber >Subject: IP: Clintons security meeting > >I was there with my UPenn hat on. It was a very open meeting with >some relatively frank discussions. I will try to report more fully >latter today but: > >1. there were but two academics incl myself about 30 people total > >2.the network was, at least this time, not a problem. It was insecure >computer systems and software. The use of commodity systems for >critical tasks was one of the root causes as was lack of security >hygiene (safe computing) > >3. the industrial players committed to establish a sharing of attack >information > >4. the President in response to a private question re crypto said to >me that he and Al had fought and would continue to fight the >government establishment (I assume FBI and Intelligence) to open it >up. > >It was a very enlightening and useful meeting for me and for I hope others. > >More latter > >Dave > >ps the President is a fast thinker > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:01:36 -0500 >To: cryptography@c2.net >From: Declan McCullagh >Subject: Freeh says DoS attacks require FBI access to plaintext > > > >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34388,00.html > > Everything Hacked but the Budget > by Declan McCullagh (declan@wired.com) > > 1:15 p.m. 16.Feb.2000 PST > Justice Department and FBI officials > Wednesday told a Senate panel that last > week's denial of service attacks provide > ample reason to give law enforcement > bigger budgets and additional powers. > > [...] > > Repeating a long-standing theme, he said > data-scrambling encryption products > posed a real danger to police, who > needed access to descrambled > documents or communications. > > During previous appearances on Capitol > Hill, Freeh has warned of drug smugglers, > child pornographers, spies, and terrorists > cloaking their communications with > impunity. > > Now he said hackers, such as the ones > responsible for the denial of service > attacks, could encrypt their files and > make the evidence "all but worthless to > us." > > "Without the ability of law enforcement to > get court-ordered access to plaintext, > we're going to be out of business," Freeh > said. "If it is unaddressed, we're not going > to [be able to] work in many of these > areas." > > He said that the FBI is finding more and > more cases -- including 53 last year -- in > which suspects are using encryption > products like PGP to shield their files. > > [...snip...] > >************************************************************************** >Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues >Send a blank message to: freematt@coil.com with the words subscribe FA >on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per month) >Matthew Gaylor,1933 E. 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